(from _VisualEffects on Reddit)
To which mopecore replied:
Damn...
As someone else wrote in the original post, it reminded him of the movie "Falling Down" when Michael Douglas's character had an epiphany and said aloud, "I'm the bad guy?".
"You grew up wanting so bad to be Luke Skywalker, but you realize that you were basically a Stormtrooper, a faceless, nameless rifelman, carrying a spear for empire..."
I've been paying attention to the Drone Program for years.
And it just makes me so sad.
9/11. The day Americans feel so strongly about that they say "Never
forget". Saw around 2500 Americans killed. A tragedy for sure. But
you've retaliated and killed over 50 fold as many innocent civilians
abroad as retribution for this event.
How do you as a people walk around head held high, knowing that every
few months you are committing a 9/11 event to other people. Imagine if
the 9/11 terror attacks were happening in america every few months.
Again and again, innocent people dying all around you. Your brothers and
sisters. For no reason.
Think about this. If France gained intel that there was a possible
terrorist target in a stabucks in downtown Manhattan. Based only on
loose suspicion. And they used a drone to blow the building up killing
22 Americans. There would be public outrage demanding an apology and
immediate action be taken to punish those in charge. It would be on
every news channel. People would be mourning. News channels would say
"never again can we let this happen".
And yet you just go around the rest of the world doing it on a weekly basis to other people and don't think twice about it.
It brings me to tears knowing how absolutely blasé you guys are about it.
To which mopecore replied:
Many of us are unable. Many of us watched 9/11, and accepted the
government and media's definition of the attack as a act of war rather
than a criminal action. A smaller portion, drifting along passively
thought a major war was coming, that people we knew were going to fight
and die. Some of us maybe worried about our younger brother being
drafted, despite being in college. Now, it seems stupid, but in the 72
hours after 9/11, some Americans, maybe suffering from depression,
certainly with a mind shaped by comic books and action movies, ate up
the "us vs. them" good vs. evil rhetoric spouted by the cowboy in chief.
After all, he was the president, and no matter how bright you might
think yourself, you can still be swayed by passion and emotion, led to
terrible decisions.
Some of us, therefore, left our dorm rooms, and walked down Main
Street to the recruiter's office. Some of us were genuinely surprised
the office wasn't full to bursting of young men eager to avenge their
fallen countrymen. Some of us were genuinely surprised when we had to
push the recruiter to stop trying to sell desk jobs and just let us join
the damn Infantry.
Some of us got enlisted, then, and went down to Georgia, head high to
mask the anxiety and fear they might have helped. Perhaps some number
of Americans in this situation discovered that maybe it hadn't been the
best idea, but would be goddamned if they were going to admit it, and
let everyone back home smuggly remark on how right they were.
So they persevere. They learn to work as a unit, to look past
personality issues, to see each other as Soldiers rather than as a race,
or economic status, or any of the other things people hate about each
other.
They learn to kill.
Then some of these people, perhaps while sitting hungover in the
platoon area in the Republic of Korea hear that we have invaded Iraq.
They have "Big Scary Bombs", and Saddam Hussein, the secular Arab
dictator had somehow colluded with the devoutly religious OBL to attack
the US. They hated our freedom, you see.
Then some of these young American men might transfer back to Georgia
and be assigned to the 3rd Infantry Division, and end up in Iraq in
January of 2005. And maybe these kids, still drunk on Fox News and
fantasies of glory and renown being enough to win their ex-girlfriends
back, are excited to go to Iraq. Sure, we hadn't found any WMDs yet, and
we had Hussein in custody, but they were still somehow a threat and had
to be dragged kicking and screaming into Jeffersonian democracy. Inside
every dirka is a good American, yearning to be free.
So you fight. You kill. Watch friends die. Its usually quick, almost
never quiet, but for the rest of your life, when you remember sitting at
the bar with them, they're blown open. You picture the nights you spent
downtown at Scruffy Murphy's, but instead of the stupid hookah shell
necklace, your boy's jaw is blown off, and his left eye is ruined, and
he's screaming.
You fight, you kill, you watch friends die, and you notice a distinct
lack of change. You kick in doors and tell terrified women to sit on
the floor while you and your friends ransack their home, tearing the
place apart, because they might be hiding weapons. There is no reason to
believe this house in particular is enemy, same for the next one, and
the one after that, or the seven before; they just happened to be there,
and maybe they had weapons. Probably not, they almost never did. There
were a few times when we had deliberate raids based on solid intel and
we'd turn up some stuff, but generally we were just tossing houses
because we could.
Then maybe your FISTer forgets to carry the remainder, and drops a
mess of mortars on the village your supposed to protect. Maybe the big
Iraqi running at you screaming was just mentally ill. Of course, you
won't know this until after you've but seven rounds through his ribcage,
and his wailing, ancient mother is cradling his body, spitting at you.
Maybe when you get back to the FOB, the Platoon Sergeant tells you
you did the right thing; next time, it might be a suicide bomber. They
tell you it was an honest mistake, it wasn't your fault. They tell you
to go get some chow, take a shower if the water works, and sleep it off.
You did good work that day, apparently.
During chow, the TV is on AFN, and they are rebroadcasting some Fox
News show, and you're hearing about drone strikes, and all the great
things we're doing, and you can't help but see that poor dumb assholes
face, looking past his mother as he bleeds to death. He's in pain,
obviously, but he has the most perfectly confused look on his face. He
doesn't comprehend what's happening. Little more hot sauce on your eggs
doesn't really help.
Then you realize you haven't seen anything to support the idea that
these poor fuckers are a threat to your home. You look around and you
see all he contractors making six figure salaries to fix your shit,
train Iraqis, maintain the ridiculous SUVs the KBR dicks ride around in.
You consider the fact that every 25mm shell costs about forty bucks,
and your company has been handing those fuckers out like shrapnel
flavored parade candies. You think about all the fuel you're going
through, all the ammo and missiles and grenades. You think about every
time you lose a vehicle, the Army buys a new one. Maybe you start to see
a lot of people making a lot of money on huge amounts of human
suffering.
Then you go on leave, and realize that Ayn Rand has no idea what the
fuck she's talking about. You realize that Fox News and Limbaugh and
John McCain don't respect you or your buddies. They don't give a fuck if
you get a parade or a box when you get home, you're nothing to them but
a prop.
Then you get out, and you hate the news. You hate the apathy, and you
hate the murder being carried out in your name. You grew up wanting so
bad to be Luke Skywalker, but you realize that you were basically a
Stormtrooper, a faceless, nameless rifleman, carrying a spear for
empire, and you start to accept the startlingly obvious truth that these
are people like you.
Maybe your heart breaks a little every time some asshole brags about a "successful" drone strike.
Your statement is correct enough; if all of America was one dude,
that dude would not give a shit about the little brown people we're
burning and crushing and choking to death. We aren't all like that, but
it makes me incredibly, profoundly sad to see what my country actually
is.
Some of us care, and I think there are more every day.
Damn...
As someone else wrote in the original post, it reminded him of the movie "Falling Down" when Michael Douglas's character had an epiphany and said aloud, "I'm the bad guy?".
"You grew up wanting so bad to be Luke Skywalker, but you realize that you were basically a Stormtrooper, a faceless, nameless rifelman, carrying a spear for empire..."
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